“I've Never Been More Optimistic” (Flipboard’s Mike McCue On the Open Social Web)

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Mike McCue has seen a lot of changes over the years to the open web. He was an executive at Netscape, which helped liberate the web from AOL's walled garden; he served on the board of Twitter but wasn’t able to prevent it from abandoning its open API ecosystem; and now, as the CEO of Flipboard, he's building towards a more open future.
“I've never been more optimistic than I am now about how the internet is going to develop and how the social media world and ecosystem is going to develop into a much more open, connected experience for people, independent of app, independent of platform,” McCue says. But there are still big problems to fix, and today on Revolution.Social, Mike and Rabble talk about most of them, including the devaluation of follower counts, how rage bait economics poison platform incentives, and how AI-generated content lacks soul.
As a board member at Patreon, McCue says he’s seeing a renewed demand for authentic human craft & niche communities; at this perilous and promising moment, which vision of the future will win?
In this episode
- 0:00Introduction
- 5:14From Netscape to the Fediverse
- 8:49Elon, Zuckerberg, and the push toward alternatives
- 14:22The shutdown of Twitter’s API and the birth of the AT Protocol
- 19:38Follower counts don’t matter
- 22:12Rage bait economics and platform incentives
- 25:51Bluesky and Mastodon
- 27:50Niche communities vs. the global town square
- 30:57The craft of being human in an AI world
- 38:09How to explain the open web to regular users
- 43:33Surf and open protocols for social media
- 54:08Patreon and business models for the internet
- 1:02:14diVine and AI backlash